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extreme maga republican effort to default on our debt, crash the economy. >> i'm worried about the consequences of us not coming to terms and raising the debt ceiling. >> at this point, it's economic terrorism. >> my communications to them are, stand firm. there's no reason not to. stand firm. you have a white house that is not serious. >> republicans want to drive us over the cliff of default. >> it's idiotic for anybody to consider anything other than what we had. we will ride it out. >> neil: does that sound like progress? we'll see. both sides far apart as lawmakers race to cut a...

But if there is a national policy, you're going to have reasonable restrictions. but you're also going to have reasonable exceptions. there has to be a consensus form and that's generally done at the state level. so our position has to be sold quite frankly i thought nikki haley did a nice job talking about the compassionate side of it. where we've got to remember how increasing maternal health care where we've got to make sure that we provide additional adoption services because these are challenges and we've got to meet them with compassion. >> real quick on that vivek ramaswamy got a lot of...

Only poll that matters is what happens on election day. look at ron desantis' electoral history. he eeked out a small win in 2018. after the people of florida got to know him for four years, they re-elected him by almost a 20-point margin. a 19% improvement. neil, that swing voters, persuadable voters, center left voters. the first republican statewide candidate to win miami-dade county in over a generation. that's the kind of result we need. donald trump didn't flip new voters in 2020 on a net basis from 2016. he was flat or slightly down. ron desantis grew his constituency, grew his voter wa...