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For in daca protections and temporary protective status in exchange for funding for his wall. it's a perfectly reasonable approach. >> i just want to correct one thing you said. you said the president offered daca protections for his money. actually, it was the other way around last year. it was the democrats who said, we'll give you $25 billion for border security if you give a pathway to citizenship to daca recipients. he rejected that. there was a bipartisan plan offered to him. he shut that down. >> since i was there in the white house, let me correct you since you're trying to fact check ...

The democrats were asking for was not just the daca population, but the parents and people who may have been could have been eligible and didn't apply. the population began to mushroom. the point being what you said. the democrats were willing to put the money on the table. we know there is a possibility to get a deal. if the deal gets bigger and you bring daca back into the conversation, the president said he wants a resolution. there is a pathway to get a deal, but i don't see it happening in the next few days. it's longer term. >> democrats want to change the dynam dynamics. she will pass s...

Argue obstruction of justice didn't apply to me, that's outside of it. and of course he also has his children. and these prosecutors are being smart kind of moving in, outflanking him in some places and at some point he's going to be left standing alone, and the idea behind not indicting a president, is that under article 2 the executive power would be interfered with by an ongoing criminal investigation. i think this insanity we're living through is the ability for the executive branch to function. we have to ask ourselves, how is the government even functioning at this point? >> here's a guy...

The death penalty saying it didn't apply, for example, to juveniles. they gave civil rights to -- or rather legal rights to prisoners in guantanamo bay. and perhaps, most importantly, have been justice kennedy's decisions on gay rights, wouldn't you say. >> no question, that will go down in history as a monumental change in how our society operated, the recognition of rights for same-sex couples, for example, and just the movement away from discrimination against homosexuals has really been a big part of his jurisprudence about individuality. on one hand justice kennedy said i'm going to be ag...

People. but they're also not people that would easily assimilate into the united states. they're overwhelmingly rural people. in the countries they come from, fourth, fifth, sixth grade educations are kind of the norm. >> so this isn't a new thought from john kelly, you know, back in february, "the washington post" reported that kelly said some immigrants eligible for daca who didn't apply for legal protection were either too afraid or, i'm quoting now, too lazy to get off their "a"s, does language like this overshadow the point he's trying to make? >> more to point, he was sold to this as thi...