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Terms of getting either guilty pleas or convictions from people associated with the trump team or the trump campaign. roger stone would be the sixth. so, you know, i know that roger stone is saying that i will not flip, i will not testify against the president of the united states because i have no evidence against him, and i won't lie, but, i mean, didn't cohen and manafort certainly say the same thing -- essentially say the same thing? what do you think is the likelihood that stone flips? >> i don't see it with stone for some reason in my gut. fist off, i'm not sure -- first off, i'm not sur...

Prosecutors, whether that is helpful for cohen will depend on the specific fact of what he did here. i think nick makes this really great point, though, why didn't cohen just go ahead and register as a lobbyist? if what he was doing was, in fact, setting up calls with the white house, he himself talking to the white house, nudging them on the issues, the easiest route to do that would have been to register. and the fact that he didn't register and that this all happens in the dark gives it a little bit more sinister of an appearance. >> i think there's something allegation interesting "the wal...

>> the former judge that was here mentioned this. we're living in a world now where remarkably the supreme court in the mcdonald decision legalized a certain form of bribery. they basically said it's okay to take money for access to a politician as long as there's no specific act or quid pro quo. does that end up providing a lot of legal protection for whatever michael cohen was engaged with in here? >> you know, it might, chris. it depends on the facts. but mcdonald was a real blew to prosecutors. it made it much more difficult to prosecute the pay-to-play conduct where an individual company ...