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The republican party during his time as his, right. and that's why, at least this is kind of what i took away from my conversations with him. that's why he can't get his head around the fact that he lost. he talked heuplz into this idea this has been stolen from him because republicans did so well down the ballot otherwise. >> it's a problem for him if he doesn't want anyone to win after him. >> it is. it was so interesting to see pence's pivot after five years of going along with trump, from charlottesville to january 6th, now pence has decided he's together to stand up for himself. i think i...

They will start voting republican again. there was a sense at the top of the party, the donor class, if they talked about immigration reform, which of course is what all the wealthy donors in the party wanted to do for their own reasons, there was a sense that that would somehow cure everything. and what ended up happening was that just made the voters angrier, the grassroots who constitute much more of a segment of the party than the elite donor class. one example from ari fleisher is very interesting. he was going through his notes after he took interviews with people, this is seven years af...

Congress were working with the insurrectionists to try to stop the certification of the election, that could apply directly to them. who else could it apply to? potentially donald trump. this is the lesson of the civil war generation to stop. if he had been impeached, this would all be a moot point. he obviously was not convicted in the senate. what some members of congress will tell you is because the articles of impeachment specifically mention insurrection for donald trump, and because a majority of both houses voted for it, despite the fact they didn't convict, it could apply. because that...

Mccarthy, two very different stories there. mccarthy trying to thread that careful needle because he may want to be the house speaker, in fact, does want to be the house speaker if the house of representatives flips in the midterm elections. yesterday he said this when asked by our colleague manu raju whether he thought it was legitimate political discourse january 6th. >> it was referred to as a legitimate political discourse. >> that's not correct of what the rnc was talking b. everybody knows, anybody who broke in and caused damage, that was not called for. we said those people from the ver...

>> with us now, cnn congressional correspondent lauren fox. i noted this last night. mitch mcconnell doesn't say anything by accident. every syllable is carefully chosen. so he did this for a reason. >> reporter: exactly. he was very strategic yesterday during his republican press conference. he didn't comment on this monday afternoon when he got into washington. but we were prepped and ready for tuesday during that press conference. and he wasn't mincing words. he made it clear he was frustrated with the republican national committee censuring of two members of the house of representatives sa...