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We later learned that wasn't true. >> since your report, and it is similar to the cnn report. since that's come out. people defended the president's power to do this which is not in question. what they haven't tried to explain is the lie. >> right. >> that's just hanging out there. >> right. look. again, i think we have discussed it before. when i asked the president that question, we were already in the process of trying to report on whether this had taken place. because we had gotten a tip that there was a memo that indicated that the president had either directed or ordered the clearance to...

Telling "time" magazine i don't believe they interfered. that became a laughing point and not a talking point. a laughing point. any time i do something they say russia interfered. it could be russia, it could be china and it could be some guy at his home in new jersey. >> no, it couldn't. didn't intel agencies believe it was russia? >> at the highest levels of the u.s. government there is consensus about this. >> why don't we ask somebody that actually knows and that's a ranking member of the house oversight and government reform committee, democratic congressman elijah cummings of maryland w...