The north koreans expressing interest to negotiate at some point in the future to keep that door open. and we've seen this before. remember, the north koreans and five other countries were in six-party talks for years and i think kim's calculous may be, okay, if we keep this negotiation warm then maybe the military strike is less likely, and we can continue making progress on different things without the risk of getting hit by the united states. >> he certainly, kim certainly got placed on equal footing with the united states on a national scale, but my prediction is that they will meet, but i...