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Tommy? >> he, when we would go, like we would meet, you know, you meet people. like strangers, you know. a cashier or, you know, just people that you just pass by you. like say a word to. have an interaction with. and he would always, you know, he was in a joking manner but also in a kind -- it was a rhetorical question. why don't we ask them to hang out? like just, people don't think that way. but in his mind, he just didn't view -- like he viewed this kind of, this humanity in every person that allowed him -- >> that allowed for the possibility of connection. >> sorry.

Like just, people don't think that way. but in his mind, he just didn't view -- like he viewed this kind of, this humanity in every person that allowed him -- >> that allowed for the possibility of connection. >> sorry. the capability of connection was always there and he would say, you know, it's hard to be human. that was something we remember and talk about often. and i think those kind of go hand in hand. he is seeing, he saw the humanity in everyone. and you know, kind of, he didn't tolerate, he didn't tolerate fascism. >> meanness, cruelty. >> because he -- he hoped and

Jimmy carder. bill: he says he wasn't even around when 9/11 happened. that was a direct reference to afghanistan. >> he he we don't face a serious threat in al qaeda in the ways we did leading in the up to 9/11. oh suggested the threat of a mass casualty attack from al qaeda is if not gone, significantly diminished. i just think you talk to intelligence officials at the cia and the intelligence community, many of them have a didn't view, while the threat from al qaeda while dispersed remains significant. they are not just focused on local problems and local issued. but they are trying to find ...

Ene enemies. that's a legitimate conversation but the smear stuff, the stuff about, to a certain degree, jim inho inhofe's op-ed is basically saying chuck haig is a meat eating oil man, republican and he doesn't want obama to have that brand in his cabinet so that obama can use that is, use the republicanism as a way to basically cut the pentagon into other things and to legitimate as by partisan some of the things obama wants to do. there have been lots of criticisms. chuck hagel has become a sand box for a proxy war whether it's sheldon adelson and others but the israel tough is the worse be...