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Leveraging each other. and then it didn't happen. i thought diplomacy on the american side if we call a diplomacy really didn't work. in some ways it was baiting putin to be more putin instead of less. these sanctions threats confirmed him and this idea that america is not going to be a partner. it's not going to be a colleague. so we are just going to figure out how we are going to behave >> one of the things we have heard from ukrainian officials the last few hours is diplomacy is still our first goal here. preventing further russian incursion without fighting is our first goal. but if it ge...

Consistently declassified intelligence about what is to come, and hauntingly, he's been correct. i want to ask you, the president said this, we remain clear eyed, the ukrainians are fighting back with pure courage, but the next few days, weeks, and months will be hard on them. putin's unleash violence and chaos, but while he may make gains on the battlefield, he will continue to pay high price over the long run. is the president -- what is he saying? what should we hear? >> i heard a couple of things. it's a great thing to focus on. one is, remember, putin initially started with a shotgun awe....

The dynamic of sanctions, laid out transparently, is that they were, a couple of weeks ago, to be a deterrent. that didn't work. now we are laying on some unprecedented banking and financial sanctions and the products sanctions and there is a bit more to move on. once there is a certainty of how the markets will settle with some of the rest of these in place, especially the oil markets, we will be in a situation to then go to swift and putin's own personal assets, go to swift and putin's own personalassets, if go to swift and putin's own personal assets, if we need to. but these all seem to me...

By the uk certainly, and the eu as well. ~ . . , by the uk certainly, and the eu as well. ~ . ., , , as well. what i was interested in as well. _ as well. what i was interested in as well, professor, - as well. what i was interested in as well, professor, the - in as well, professor, the swift banking system, a lot of our viewers will be familiar with swift, where you transfer money between countries, they are not going down the path that people feel could be effective sanction to bring in and perhaps have a immediate repercussion.— and perhaps have a immediate repercussion. why not? i think...

Invasion has stalled somewhat in recent days that putin's next move will be to up the military. bring in heavy weapons and what would be bloodier than warfare in the capitol. >> good morning. i think actually you are correct. that is what's going to happen. it seems to nae the initial russian onslaught was an attempt to force a sort of coup operation. and take ukraine by surprise. drive them and straight into the center of the capitol. and topple the government. which is why i think they led with a lightly armed small numbers of troops. that clearly obviously didn't work. and i think we're see...