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Going to happen, it is not happening yet in congress where leadership is currently being -- >> one of the things about trump and republicans, this is the problem, right, they -- their base loves him, midterm -- sorry, not midterm, independent voters see things like this truth social post that he did this week, youngkin -- that's an interesting take, sounds chinese, doesn't it? in virginia, couldn't have won without me. that's a reference to youngkin using a racist attack against him, those are the kind of things that independent voters seem to be saying enough already. >> absolutely. it is the...

We have actual emails, we have voice messages from hunter biden and joe biden, we have evidence, and how in the world the department of justice hasn't already acted on this is beyond me. that's another investigation. i think the american people are going to be shocked what the republicans already have. >> this is a double-edged sword. i mean, the american people did not necessarily say on tuesday that they wanted that, but biden may have to contend with it nonetheless. >> he'll have to contend with it, but it is politically very dangerous for republicans. i watched the results of a focus group...

Trump attacks. the question is how long can he do that? >> yeah. i mean, especially trump is just going to continue to go after him. and as for that pompeo tweet, i mean, yes, underlining meaning there, but he didn't even name trump. come on. you're going to need a lot more to take out trump than that. >> if all these republicans have the same thought process that, okay, we have seen that trump is very weak after this midterm cycle, and they all jump in, he's going to still keep that core base of 30% and then the rest of the republican party could maybe be divided amongst christie, pompeo. >> ...

On stage with him. people don't really quite know this, obamas had a connection with pittsburgh, he grew up in hawaii as a steelers fan, he's become friends with franco harris, hall of fame running back and one of his first actions as president was to take pittsburgh's favorite son, steelers owner, dan rooney, and make him ambassador to ireland. >> he built a lot of goodwill with pittsburgh. >> trump or obama? >> you can't win him and you can't win without him. what would trump have done if oz sat that rally out. >> the other thing that lost on tuesday were election deniers. for some races, it...

Think this illustrates that maybe they can't cede any territory, right, places where they thought they weren't going to win, maybe if they pushed harder in this environment they could have potentially won. >> one of the interesting die nammics has been what happened with the independent voters in this election who narrowly but did favor democrats. and if you look a little deeper at some of these key senate races, john fetterman's margin with independent voters, 20 points, that's extraordinary in a state like pennsylvania. mark kelly, 16 points, raphael warnock, 11 points. maggie hassan, anothe...