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The 17 republicans who would be needed to pass it. if it did come up for a vote. but, again, like with bruser's bill and reese witherspoon, john boehner will not put it up for a vote. a discharge position on immigration, a discharge position on the minimum wage. i don't know why democrats floated both of these ideas in the same day today or if it was koorduated at all, but it did happen. the official republican line about this tactic is it will never happen, it will never work. specifically the comment from john boehner's spokesman today was, "this scheme has zero chance of success." he said b...

Since then, democrats have put together legislation and a legislative strategy on this issue. for that, it helps that it polls really well. democrats love the idea of raising the minimum wage. a majority of independents like the idea, a majority of republicans like the idea. everybody likes the idea of raising the minimum wage except elected republicans. they will not allow it to come up for a vote. democrats aren't no control of the house so they can't control what comes up for a vote. the speaker has absolute power. except for this one weird tactic xavier becerra talked about today. the disc...

Talking point. >> it is not necessary, when you have a discharge position when under the rules would force a vote under the house, not a single republican has signed it. so the talking points are null and vote. >> congressman, thank you for joining us. and many have said breaching it would not lead to economic disaster, congressman saying it is demagoguery. and the warning about the recession if the debt ceiling is not lifted. with that intra-party dispute, i want to bring in congressman elijah cummings. look, some are saying that he will not negotiate, even democr democrats are critical of ...

Immigration reform? i'm not sure that it does, but we'll see what the members hear when they go home. >> you know, i feel like the idea of this is the very broad and old idea of moral persuasion. you hope that you open people's hearts. you see them with their mom through the fence and you think this is going to have an emotional impact on people who are deciding what they think about this and maybe that emotional impact lets people change their arguments about it in some ways. i don't know if that works on members of congress. >> exactly. it works on people, but does it work on members of cong...

Order they decide to do it. something like a discharge position. who knows. it could marinate for months and suddenly there be enough pressure and republicans realize that they are in enough trouble that they absolutely have to do something along those lines, but i think that at this point, we can't answer that question definitively. >> going -- i realize the discharge petition idea is seen as a crazy pipe dream. i will say we keep hearing from the republicans there's a group of about three dozen republicans among the 230 whatever who actually won't call themselves moderates but are at least t...