Christine. i went out to one of these casual -- what do they call them, the fast casual restaurants. you now order your food on an ipod, you don't have a server. if you go to these burger kings and mcdonald's, that's the problem, bob rice, you never go to those restaurants. when you go to those places now, you don't have a server who is actually pouring your drink. now you go and you put your cup into the dispenser machine. so they're doing things already, robert rice, to reduce their labor costs -- >> we all want a high-wage economy. we all three agree about that. steven moore, robert reich, ...