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Happened. It seems dubious that the Russian Military, in other words, would want to take down a major passenger plane. Certainly with not the intent of taking it down. Again, we simply dont know who brought this down. Im also here with lieu dtenant colonel rick francona. Just in terms of kants, we have not seen separatists heretofor, they have brought down at least one transport plane, but they were not flying at 33,000 feet. Yeah, this would require, as we were talking about, a more sophisticated system. Talking about, you know, hitting it inadvertently, it would be very difficult for that to...

Now, if this is a division asset, they would make that decision. if they were provided to the separatists -- and i think that would be a remote possibility, you know, the systems are self-contained. once you've got the -- you know, the radar system and the missile system and you've got it up and running -- >> someone locally can do it. >> yes. >> it's not a centralized command. >> it would not have to be controlled, say, at a filter center up in the chain of command. >> but again, you believe the likelihood that any of these separatist groups that we have seen operating over the last 3 1/2 mon...