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The problem they have is where do they go? the next thing they go but i can't vote for elizabeth warren. >> exactly. that's the next thing that they say is i can't vote for elizabeth warren, biden has his issues, we can go through the list. so the problem, like the never trumpers, people without a home, without a country because they can't stand him, but they really don't see a democrat who's going to get there who they can support. if we had a moderate democrat -- >> i've heard that a lot. >> -- in the mix, they would go to it. >> they find morality had they're pocketbook starts getting ainfe...

Reporting on what the former russian aide is set to reveal in congressional testimony. also with us, nbc's julia ainsley with reporting on law classmates of white house counsel pat telling him that he's distorting the constitution. carol, we'll start with you who was the former aide and what do we expect her to reveal? >> well, mika, the former aide is fiona whoil whill who was in of the russian security council for about 2 1/2 years until this summer -- she left right around the time of that now infamous ukraine call that the president had with president zelensky. and a person familiar with h...

>> yeah. >> thank you. >> of course no, no, it's absolutely not. >> right. see, right there, you saw that it's pretty easy. it's just a no. absolutely not. crystal clear answer from former trump national security adviser h.r. mcmaster. he knows the answer. so -- >> well, he should. >> right. >> he should know the answer. i mean, he's a national security adviser. >> right. >> and of course the answer to this, let's be very clear, has always been the same. >> yeah. >> it's been unambiguous and aim sure there's nobody, mika, on capitol hill that would have any problem answering that question. >> ...

>> >> i toi too, i think the wa dresses, i've had people stop any overseas and tell me i love the way donny dresses, but not the white collar. >> usa today upon columnist and former senior adviser for the house oversight and government reform committee kurt joins us this morning. >> kurt. >> all right. >> really quickly, mika, before we jump in. i know you want to talk baseball so let's briefly talk baseball. willie, it took a while for order to be restored in the universe but it was, in fact, restored. houston astros is the best team in baseball, closed out a really gutsy, really impressive t...

This team can never be counted out. you know, down 3-0, down 3-1 with two in the eightenih innin and this is a special team. watch out. watch out for them. >> they really are. they really are. hold on one second. >> yeah. >> da, da, da, that's our little espn and e moment. we've done nine moments of that, let's go to the news. >> let's please go to the news. >> by the way, mika, that was an espn thing. >> i'll explain that to her, joe. >> explain to her. let's go to the news. >> okay. stop us if you've heard this before, but yet another new poll shows a majority of americans support house demo...