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Former boss' role. >> anyone who puts themselves over the constitution should never be president of the united states. >> it wasn't just that he asked for a pause. the president specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes, essentially to overturn the election. >> and i'm joined now by the former trump attorney general bill barr, his first reaction since we have seen these new charges, and thank you so much for being here, mr. attorney general. you have now read through this indictment. do you think it's a strong case? >> i think it's a legitimate...

Statements about the 2020 election. >> steve: mr. trump is fighting to move the case out of washington d.c. to perhaps west virginia because in dc he says he can't get a fair trial. >> brian: griff jenkins outside of the dc courthouse. >> griff: good morning, that's right, in a matter of hours we expect the former president president here, third indictment in four months, ainsley you mentioned four charges, you can see we put that screen up, three of the charges are on conspiracy, one for obstruction, trump's attorneys said this is a free speech case and former attorney general bill bar says s...

Most important part of it, i think, is the description of the effort to turn mike pence into an instrument of reversing the result in the electoral college. i think that's the strongest part of it. i think it was right to bring the document case. i think it's important to have both of these cases brought to trial before the election, as far in advance of the election as possible, but i want to underline what we're doing. i think it's the right thing to do, but it is a modified form of russian roulette. if trump is convicted in one or both of the federal cases, i think that will turn things ups...

Won in 2000, hillary clinton for saying donald trump's not a legitimate president? what's happening? where is this going politically? >> that's exactly the precedent that jack smith wants to set here, right, going after free speech, political speech, that's protected clearly under the first amendment that president trump had every legal right to bring up under the constitution and the first amendment like we just said here. the second part of this is what you just brought up, trace. you would have to go back, al governor rejected the results of the 2000 election. barbara box or senator of cali...

Archer, on capitol hill. his former business partner and best friend. he did not appear to be very inclined to talk before heading into that meeting. take a listen. an mr. archer, what do you intend to tell the committee today? do you have anything to say? did you have meetings with the bidens and can you elaborate -- >> did anyone tell you not to appear today, sir? >> bill: so archer is expected to be asked about vice president biden's alleged ties to his son's business deals. house gop conference vice chair mike johnson standing by on that. >> gillian: and alex hoff is in miami, a long time ...