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Seem to agree that mike pence wouldn't be that starting guy -- do you think these investigations, jack smith's probe into january six of mar-a-lago are happening in parallel tracks, because i've always thought about the mar-a-lago thing must be further along than the january 6th case. which seems massive, and unwieldy, a it'll take forever, how do you see that moving down the track. >> the facts of the mar-a-lago documents probe are easier, certainly. it's except for the fact that some of the material witnesses have been caught up in all of this litigation, like evan corcoran. but we've talked...

Sympathetic to jack smith, the intrigue here that he perhaps would've been for congress. >> let me ask you another timeline question, as you seem to agree that mike pence wouldn't be that starting guy -- do you think these investigations, jack smith's probe into january six of mar-a-lago are happening in parallel tracks, because i've always thought about the mar-a-lago thing must be further alive in the january 6th case. which seems massive, and unwieldy, a it'll take forever, how do you see that moving down the track. >> the facts of the mar-a-lago documents probe are easier, certainly. it's ...

Testimony. >> bob costello, if he was any more imaginary in the statements that are coming out of his mouth, he'd be a number one "new york times" best selling fiction author. >> four different courtrooms in america had activity involving trump today, right? it goes way beyond this indictment in new york. you have costello in cohen and new york. in manhattan a federal judge rejected a joint request by trump and e. jean carroll to hold a trial in carroll's defamation and civil suits against the former president. in washington, evan corcoran who special counsel jack smith wants as a key witness ...

Comprehensive immigration reform. the question is are they interested in debating the ideas and legislating or do they want to spend two years investigating the president? investigating the president is not only not solving people's problems, it's also not smart politically, but the choice is really theirs. >> congressman ro khanna, i am grateful you're keeping your eye on the ball. thank you for joining us tonight. and happy thanksgiving to you. >> thank you, katie. happy thanksgiving. >> and ahead, the mar-a-lago documents probe, why trump appears close to a major loss in court today. that's...