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Fact that a according to mike pence's own spokesman, the way he found out about the fact that he was deceived by general flynn was reading "the washington post." >> right. >> and finding out because of these leak. >> good point, karen. >> thank you. >> i do think there is a large middle ground between sort of this narrative that we're getting about this large-scale russian conspiracy to get into the white house and saying that there are no problems. i mean, there is some media hysteria and narrative pushing that doesn't seem to be backed up by actual facts. >> well, then, it is his job, i thin...

One state solution, two state solutions, we'll see what the parties agree to. what was your take on these areas where there did seem to be some disagreement? >> well, my take is with regard to the two or one-state solution, president trump seemed to be simply saying that they will accept whatever the parties negotiate and those parties are israel and palestinians. that's been the long-held position that the united states has had. so, i don't think that that's a break from the past. obviously israel is a valued ally. we need to work with them. we need to make sure that organizations like the u....