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Empathy. and the current president does not have that. why do you think that is? why do you have it, and why doesn't he? >> look, i don't think he's capable of empathy. i really don't. i've not seen a single thing of any indication he has any understanding of what other people are going through. and in a sense i wish i didn't have so much empathy. >> you faced a lot of loss. >> well, a lot of people have. a lot of people have faced more than i have, and they get every day without the kind of help i had with my family and put their foot one foot in front -- they're real heroes and go out every ...

Is really, really striking here. and again, i do think that there's a distinction to be made between republicans who are saying at least proval your case beyond a reasonable doubt or, yes, this happened, it was improper but it's not impeachable and guys like devin nunes and lindsey graham who are fully prepared to push forward these conspiracy theories no matter how bizarre, how discredited and debunked they are to really do trump's dirty work. that means they've gone beyond defense to really be coconspirators. >> what do you think, jonathan, do they have to accomplish here? because he tried t...

Routine but as a physician he has some questions. >> does he have some sort of symptoms? nobody suggesting he had any symptoms but if someone goes to the hospital a few months early, i think that would be a reasonable question to ask. >> all of this coming at a very crucial time for this white house in the middle of an impeachment inquiry and a president who has an uncomfortable with the truth, therefore all of this speculation running rampant. >> we have the president who had a health scare this weekend, everybody is lying about it, a health this weekend. >> sean: dr. joe knows better than an...

Concentrate our efforts elsewhere. >> i think they're going to keep plugging along. if you are warren, they have kind of tried to stay away from poll numbers and they think that as they continue to make their case, yes, they have come into a point where other candidates are hitting them now but they think that case will be one that gets that late movement he was talkingtalk ing about. if you're bernie sanders, you think you're bringing in new people into the caucus and that's what you're betting on to at the end of the day and if you're biden, frankly, you're looking past iowa, new hampshire, ...

Number four. investigating burisma is in our national interest. now, for weeks we have been told that it's a conspiracy theory to be concerned about hunter biden's work for burisma. oh, really. >> the company burisma, its leader has a little bit of a storied history of corruption, doesn't he? >> he uses regulatory authority to award gas exploration licenses to companies that he himself controlled. >> how did the ukrainian government ultimately pursue that? >> $23 million was frozen until somebody in the general prosecutor's office of ukraine shut the case and that money went poof. >> essential...