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They know yet. clearly the president and in the case of benghazi, the secretary of state. that's the way life works. but what bothers me about it is that two things really concern me, one, you think of a manager, a leader. when something like that happens, you call people in, you sit them down and you let them know that you intend to find ground truth fast. and he seems not to have done that. the other thing that's worrisome is, as they say, truth leaves on horseback and returns on foot. what's happening to the president is incrementally trust is being eroded because of the different messages ...

The heart of the republican party are home-owning, church-attending middle-class people. >> sean: you are saying no income tax because they are revenue enhancements. >> if they can do it without hurting the center of the country. but the fiscal cliff isa i manufactured crisis by the congress. they don't have to go over it. but they don't have to cut a deal-- they will cut defense. the president's demagoguing it saying they are holding the middle class hostage. i didn't see the republicans saying, no, you are holding them hostage. why don't they reverse these things? >> that's what is so frus...

Party are home-owning, church-attending middle-class people. >> sean: you are saying no income tax because they are revenue enhancements. >> if they can do it without hurting the center of the country. but the fiscal cliff isa i manufactured crisis by the congress. they don't have to go over it. but they don't have to cut a deal-- they will cut defense. the president's demagoguing it saying they are holding the middle class hostage. i didn't see the republicans saying, no, you are holding them hostage. why don't they reverse these things? >> that's what is so frustrating about the republican...

Find a way, to preserve laws that congress passes, unless it is absolutely impossible. and even if the petitioners in court don't cite the right provisions, even if, for example, the obama administration doesn't lead heavily on the tax argument in the supreme court, it is the justice's obligation to find their own justification, wherever they can. to preserve what the congress has done. and that is what the chief did here. absolutely. there are other big surprises in here. when you look at how that medicaid provision turned out and when you see that one of the justices that president obama app...

Ready to go right now. the pipes are already bought. it just has to be done. all we need a president who will step up and start to lead and quit acting like some scared cat hiding in some closet in the white house. maybe that is not, maybe i shouldn't have said it that way but that's the what i feel like. bill: it is your opinion. >> that's what i feel like. bill: you think he is hing in a closet? >> i tell you this, he is not leading. that is one with of the problems. he is a very charming person. you can't help by like him. he is articulate, charismatic and doesn't lead. he gets pushed aroun...