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Versus nothing, you're getting a whole lot of something. everyone will get onboard. nancy pelosi doesn't mess up. it doesn't happen. she knows where the boundary lines are. she knew when she endorse the framework that it was going to work, and biden knew as well. he was going to come back to a rosier picture. >> katie: shannon, it was either really good idea for the president to make this announcement and leave and let them hash it out. or looks bad because it doesn't look like he's really involved as they continue to talk about what may or may not happen. >> shannon: because greg has child ca...

Versus nothing, you're getting a whole lot of something. everyone will get onboard. nancy pelosi doesn't mess up. it doesn't happen. she knows where the boundary lines are. she knew when she endorse the framework that it was going to work, and biden knew as well. he was going to come back to a rosier picture. >> katie: shannon, it was either really good idea for the president to make this announcement and leave and let them hash it out. or looks bad because it doesn't look like he's really involved as they continue to talk about what may or may not happen. >> shannon: because greg has child ca...

Policy but today there is a policy and i'm defending it. what is going on, scott? >> well i think they're trying to be too cute by half. that is what we call it in kentucky and they better get their ducks in order and it is harming them to know what to do and they must unify going into the immigration reform debate this week. i hope they are not losing sight of. a chance for a win. immediate issue with the policy but trying to score a legislative win to solve the problems at once and i fear that -- they're caught in the storm today. but they have got to get this right today so it doesn't mess ...