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White house and the fed chair about where we should be on monetary policy, this wouldn't even come up. you and i have been around long enough to know every president has felt like the fed is working against him. >> neil: absolutely. >> in this day and age, it's easier to broadcast that story and we have a president who doesn't mind having everyone of his thoughts out there on social media. going back to lyndon johnson who wasn't crazy about it or george bush 1, plenty of antagonism between presidents and the fed. it's usually more behind closed doors. now that we know about it, it becomes more...

Into impeaching on the theory he will be acquit fld the senate requiring a two third vote and democrats don't have that. that would be a political boon and advantage to him. she makes the argument to her caucus therefore we shouldn't fall into the trap. now the president was asked about that. he says no, no i don't think anybody wants to be impeached. but there does seem to be with him the desire to mix it up, a desire to have this battle. he doesn't want to short of like shuffle it off and pretend like it's notworthy of him the way other presidents do. president clinton, even president nixon ...

An eye on. >> what about acting defense secretary shanahan, is it time for not an acting defense secretary? is it time to have a real one? >> i mean, certainly the fact that he's more operational and isn't really a policy guy, so he doesn't have the same level -- even if he was the secretary of defense, he would not be a significant voice in determining what the policy outcome here. i want to be clear here. i don't think the concern is 120,000 troops on the dproubd and invading iran at all. i think the concern is you get an accident, you end up with a military confrontation that could lead to ...

Street guys. it's not just the money, it's where you're getting it. >> yeah, in the old days, it wasn't so bad being associated with wall street. bill clinton was associated with them and hillary. it was good to be associated with moderate centrist to mildly liberal wall street guys that, you know, made money but want to make the world a better place. it's just so -- the democratic party now is so turned upside-down that even if you're a liberal moderate guy that works on wall street or woman who wants to make the world a better place, doesn't mind paying more texases but not anti-capitalist, ...

He didn't take any opportunity to say that he wouldn't be inspiring people like that. and david corn was saying that he didn't do it deliberately because he doesn't mind. >> well, i think that's absolutely right, and i think it's actually worse than that because he has a long track record of stoking the kind of hatred that provides the rhetorical or intellectual ammunition for attacks like we saw in new zealand today. and, you know, i think what you have to understand here is that president trump is fundamentally an islamophobic bigot. he is somebody who has mainstream hatred against muslims a...