into impeaching on the theory he will be acquit fld the senate requiring a two third vote and democrats don't have that. that would be a political boon and advantage to him. she makes the argument to her caucus therefore we shouldn't fall into the trap. now the president was asked about that. he says no, no i don't think anybody wants to be impeached. but there does seem to be with him the desire to mix it up, a desire to have this battle. he doesn't want to short of like shuffle it off and pretend like it's notworthy of him the way other presidents do. president clinton, even president nixon is a said they were above the free, focused op the people's business while everybody was else was wrestling in the mud and he was going to be -- they said they would be above it. this president doesn't mind getting in the mud with opponents and says if you attack me i attack you back. and the idea being removed from that is alien to his persona. >> yeah, i mean, look, that is exactly what a lot of people who have voted with him and stuck with him like about him, that