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Really can the american conservative movement re-express itself in ways that are reflective of 21st century america and all the demographics? because that's really where our solution is going to start. >> you're a conservative blogger, right? >> i am. >> let's talk about the answers. if we keep spending like this, what's the answer except bankruptcy and we become like europe? >> i believe the answer for us is to take a step back and really reenergize our conservative agenda for america in the 21st century. and a lot of these problems. for example, we talk a lot about low taxes, right? that's o...

Federal government, sales tax, property tax. 60 cents of it. wait, you said that's a low rate. >> no, no, no -- what i'm saying. >> you think 60 cents out of every dollar of the government's low? >> no, what i'm saying is that argument doesn't resinate powerfully enough. what we need to do is transition to a new tax argument such as realizing the real job creators in this country are low to middle class income americans who actually buy products and services. >> look at people like rand paul who are able to energize conservatives, young people. and it's because he sticks to his values. nothing...

Federal government, sales tax, property tax. 60 cents of it. wait, you said that's a low rate. >> no, no, no -- what i'm saying. >> you think 60 cents out of every dollar of the government's low? >> no, what i'm saying is that argument doesn't resinate powerfully enough. what we need to do is transition to a new tax argument such as realizing the real job creators in this country are low to middle class income americans who actually buy products and services. >> look at people like rand paul who are able to energize conservatives, young people. and it's because he sticks to his values. nothing...

Really can the american conservative movement re-express itself in ways that are reflective of 21st century america and all the demographics? because that's really where our solution is going to start. >> you're a conservative blogger, right? >> i am. >> let's talk about the answers. if we keep spending like this, what's the answer except bankruptcy and we become like europe? >> i believe the answer for us is to take a step back and really reenergize our conservative agenda for america in the 21st century. and a lot of these problems. for example, we talk a lot about low taxes, right? that's o...

Federal government, sales tax, property tax. 60 cents of it. wait, you said that's a low rate. >> no, no, no -- what i'm saying. >> you think 60 cents out of every dollar of the government's low? >> no, what i'm saying is that argument doesn't resinate powerfully enough. what we need to do is transition to a new tax argument such as realizing the real job creators in this country are low to middle class income americans who actually buy products and services. >> look at people like rand paul who are able to energize conservatives, young people. and it's because he sticks to his values. nothing...