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Himself or contradicting himself. so the question is where he comes down on this, and i don't think anybody in washington knows. chris: we asked you for questions for the panel, and we got this on twitter from peter. a political party is using trumped the-up reasons to remove a potus, president, they don't like. what will be the long-term impact on the nation, and could this process repeat itself often? marie, how do you answer peter, and how do you answer the argument that some people are making, that jonah at least raised, that maybe the president is really bad judgment here, but this doesn'...

Witnesses. they said what they wanted to say. but the fact is when you talk about impeachment, this is the death penalty for the president. and the fact that she was removed, it wasn't done professionally, i felt badly for her, doesn't rise to the level of impeachment. so maybe next week with sondland and some of these others we hear firsthand accounts, but at this point we've heard three people with important stories to tell, but i think it's really, really difficult at this point to think you swayed hearts and minds in those purple-red districts where you need to if to get to the point of im...

Overheard a phone call from the president in a restaurant -- in which, according to this testimony, the president says, so he's going to do the investigation, meaning zelensky of ukraine. sondland replies that he loves your ass, he'll do whatever you want. and sondland also said trump only cares about the big stuff, meaning investigating the bidens. the new"the new york times" sayt proves trump is preoccupied with this stuff. it just took me 30 seconds to explain it, but he wasn't even on the call. >> he overheard this call, apparently, and we may hear from him in open testimony, but, you know...

She is in the position of being the tough person because she is a real hard-nosed, experienced politician, very active, opposition researcher before she was elected to congress, she knows what she's doing, she can stand on her own two feet, she can defend herself, that is why she's being so outspoken. the republicans want her out front because she is a partisan and a highly competent one, not because she is a woman. >> an unbiased journalist -- shannon: let's give you the final wrap-up. >> talking about intimidation, the presentation about how donald trump's comments about the former ambassado...

It didn't actually happen. >> doesn't rise to impeachment. not going to defend the action. >> there was an attempt but it didn't all work out. but i think for the public, what they see here is a career public servant that has been praised by republicans who was victimized and feels victimized by a smear campaign organized by the president of the united states. and that seems like a real wrong in a criminal process. >> i want to get to the president. this is -- obviously, he's his own worst enemy most of the time. but he is beyond rattled. i want to put up number 11, guys, this full screen. loo...