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Deposition is -- there's 48 republican members of the house who have a right to be in that deposition, listen to ever word, and ask every question they might want to ask of colonel vindman. there are republican staff members in that room. and so this is their chance to talk -- their first chance, to talk to someone who actually listened to the trump phone call. >> and i don't think they're going to do anything to knock him down. there's no indication that the republicans have laid a glove on any of these other people being deposed. they know that their president is in a pickle. and what eventu...

Contest the facts, which are now very clear. the problem with the argument that is emerging, that this doesn't rise to the level of impeachment, is that it has now become a national security issue. and this is one of the things that colonel vindman does, is he links up why this is related to our national security. and the reason is, the reason that ukraine did not want to be put in this position is that if their aid was politicized, if it became a democrat versus republican thing, because, say, the democrats thought, well, you know, ukraine is investigating joe biden on a bogus charge, then it...

But certainly, sondland, of course, is in a bit of trouble, because it looks like he may have misled congress when he went up to testify. >> and jonathan alter, to stress to the audience, since the republicans have been lying about this, tomorrow's deposition is -- there's 48 republican members of the house who have a right to be in that deposition, listen to ever word, and ask every question they might want to ask of colonel vindman. there are republican staff members in that room. >> right. >> and so this is their chance to talk -- their first chance to talk to someone who actually listened ...

Coming forward with mostly corroborating evidence. we know what happened. you know, the crime scene was that call and it's all been verified. everything the whistle-blower's complaint has been verified. but the more you can corroborate it, the more you can nail it down. and also, filling in details that could lead to legal trouble for other players other than president trump. people like rudy giuliani. and they could be in a world of hurt legally and if they are, it will be in part because of some of the testimony we've been hearing in the last week. >> uh-huh. >> it's important to understand ...

They will taken they will send the public, the media down these rabbit holes the produce no fruit, they tried to use that to discredit brett kavanaugh and thank goodness i was there on the judiciary committee and get him committed -- confirmed to the supreme court. that is what we are looking for. we are not looking for the games nancy pelosi is playing, the two pieces of information we have today, the transcript, the was a blower complaint, that doesn't rise to the level of impeachment so why would you be afraid to present any other information but for the fact that you have known and that is...