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Bunch of thugs. he called them a bunch of thugs. >> some democrats do want to get rid of i.c.e.. the governor is not one of them. he may have other problems. that's not one of them. >> he called them a bunch of thugs. regardless, there are prominent democratic politicians who want to get rid of immigration enforcement, who want to -- by the way, there is a caravan right now -- >> people on your side of the fence, steve, that invite the proud boys to political speeches and have them come in as a bunch of bigots and you invite them to your clubs to speak. each side has fringe elements that have ...

>> when the president says things about a specific group of people that is unfair or untrue, it gets called out. how people decide to judge that is up to them. but that's not about me. that's about what comes out of his mouth. talking about securing our borders and talking about -- by the way, even restrictions -- who says they don't want secure borders? name somebody. >> the governor of new york. the mayor of new york city. >> no one -- >> senator gillibrand from new york. you want know keep going? pelosi. gavin newsom. do you want me to keep going? >> those are lies. >> the soon to be possib...

Each other. and you're trying to do that right now. what laura ingraham was talking about -- >> can i jump in? >> legalizing people who didn't belong here in the first place. that is an affront to american sovereignty. it is an affront to our security, and to our economy, by the way. >> we had numbers come out that show there is an unprecedented number of unskilled unfilled. opportunities. you need laborers. they need to come from somewhere. as we all know, immigrant -- >> how about putting americans back in the work force? coming back into the work force which they're doing like crazy, chris....

That is palpable. that's not just my opinion. you see it in every survey of consumer confidence of small business. this country is soaring in every way, particularly economically. so your idea that we are fear-based i think is wrong on its premise, first of all. >> i'm not saying the country is scared. i'm saying that some of the most identifiable tactics that the gop is using to get people out to the polls are based on fear. for example, ingram saying, go vote, steve, or some immigrant is going to take your place. go vote, steve, or the mob is going to get you. that's what they're saying. tha...

To the polls are based on fear. for example, ingram saying, go vote, steve, or some immigrant is going to take your place. go vote, steve, or the mob is going to get you. that's what they're saying. that's fear based. >> sure, let's be careful about our terms. first of all, i'm saying we're not fear based, we're optimism based. the optimism in the land is palpable. regarding what laura said, regarding what -- you can laugh, but it's the reality. >> go ahead. >> she's not talking about immigrants. she's talking about illegal aliens who are here -- >> she actually said newly amnestied citizens. ...