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Mudd. the media perspective is this, phil, they want to keep some information hidden. you learn about things you would not learn about otherwise. what is the other side when it comes to intel? >> chris, are you correct, but in half the cases. when we see embarrassment is not a national security leak. let's give you a definition of a national security leak. when adversary gains advantage. in this case, it did. somebody in the u.s. government decided "the new york times" should know what the brits revealed secretly. when you reveal the name of the bomber, you thought you had a day or two to esca...

The politician tell another one. let's get into it. republican congress member michael burgess is the chairman of the health and sub committee on health and also a medical doctor. congress member, always good to have you. bernie sanders from vermont. stiff criticism of the bill as confirmed by the cbo. here is what he said. i want to give you a chance to respond. >> we can call this legislation whatever we want. you can call it a destroy health care bill. you can call it a tax break for the rich bill. we should not call it a health care bill. >> your take? >> well, no surprise. i disagree with...

Story. of course, the senate side of the story. we can talk about that as well. even after the bill is signed into law, it doesn't stop things. things will continue. they will have sub committee and we consider lots of legislation. we are working on a big fda bill. we did a markup in committee last week. we will do another markup in full committee next week. we will have that continually through this year and next year. i would wager some time. a lot of people are concerned i did not repeal enough of obamacare. left the independent advisory payment is still on the books. i expect we will have ...

You may not believe that scenario, i saw terrorists do stupid things like they assume they had more time. when you see the word leak, you differentiate embarrassing and what gives the adversary the advantage. that is why the british are angry today. >> david, phil lays out the case from the intel side. these are not things that are shocking bombshells in the u.s. press. we often know the name of the bomber or we have pictures of evidence. these are things that british authorities will no longer share with the u.s. in the investigation. >> obviously, i take phil's points. it is surprising to me...

Executive and how can we tell when someone comes into the room with their hair on fire whether they are chicken little or cassandr isn't that corre cassandra? >> what's the answer? >> there are things that happen in every case. if the thing you are warning about has never happened before, people will not believe it. if the thing you are warning about has been a hollywood movie, asteroids coming to the earth. biological weapons killing everybody. that sort of thing. it is outlandish in the eyes of the decision maker. they have seen that. that was hollywood. that was science fiction. >> it is so...