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Though these four are notorious liars about the election, that's not a crime, right? so what is the committee hoping to get? >> well, you're right. again, the civil case versus what the doj might come up with, criminal context, this is a congressional committee who has legislative and oversight function. they're trying to figure out what led up to the event to try to fortify certain laws or to fill in the gaps when what was legal and what ought to be illegal. and try to figure out who contributed to what they saw that day and afterwards and before. and so these are the jigsaw puzzle pieces in ...

Predictable. doesn't take rocket science you project what you were doing may of this year. we would have zero troops by august 31st. you empower, enable the taliban. you push them forward in a spring and summer offensive with predictable results that shouldn't surprise anybody. will: we talked to, listened to, we heard the trump administration, now the biden administration show interest in leaving afghanistan. with that being the background, with that being the setting what would have been the proper way to exit that country? >> well the best way to do this take a strategic approach to this. f...

And it doesn't take rocket science to know that this guy is desperate for a way out in where does this leave the investigation? will prosecutors go after epstein associates who tried to procure these girls? >> they said in a statement the southern district of new york, jeffrey berman who has been very active in this investigation. he is the man who is running that office, the southern district of new york. he showed up at every court hearing at the arraignment, at the updates. he would come himself. it's rare that you see a u.s. attorney appear in court during an investigation, during the pend...

Todd: thanks, senator flake claiming president trump has something to worry about in 2020. take a listen. >> i do believe if the president is running for re-election, if he continues on the path that he is on. that that's going to leave a huge swath of voters looking for something else. he is probably indicting a republican challengininvite agol but certainly an independent challenge. todd: here to debate is former advisor for hillary clinton campaign and fox news contributor jehmu green and joe borelli. thank you so much for joining us on this day after christmas. jehmu i will begin with you,...

Doesn't take rocket science to know that there's going to be an independent challenger and probably one of these never trump republicans challenging him as well. if i were a betting person, i think that person is actually senator jeff flake himself, especially after he talked about in that very rousing speech about the reckless, outrageous and undignified behavior of this president. todd: joe, what say you? do you see enthusiasm gap? >> i don't think jeff flake is retiring due to higher calling. is he stepping down due to lower polling. is he not someone astute enough to see that the republica...