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presidential candidates. joining me now is don callaway, founder of the national voter protection action fund. and simon rosenberg, democratic strategist and president of the new democrat network think tank. don, i'm going to start with you because i would think for a democratic strategist and democratic campaigns it's kind of a gold mine that all of these wanna be presidents are speaking before a group that's been directly associated with the proud boys. >> it is, but you have to remember a couple things. first of all, only you and i and simon understand what a terrorist designation from the southern poverty law center actually means. so there's nobody on the republican or even in the middle side of the american political spectrum who is thinking about that as a real red flag and understands that this means these are people who are really on the wrong side of history, and probably a present danger to their fellow americans. but i think when you look at this politically, of course, democrats are going to have to find a way to message around this, but it's very dangerous because if you look at the

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americans' effect on american negroes. at this point, we're allowing them to choose the question, but they often ask how it's going to affect them and their families or their schools >> and whitney, there is this like sort of reticence about the topic of reparations it's been difficult to even get congress to deal with it because there's a visceral negative reaction to it what have you heard that has sort of shown that when the students are talking about it, and do you hear those kind of reticences >> absolutely. it's really interesting. we did a debate, great to see don callaway wearing a shaw university sweatshirt, and the students debated both sides of it two students who debated against reparations. you know, against the idea of reparations because there's a lot of concern that it somehow with certain students that it will somehow make them -- it sort of makes them feel badly

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devour food during meetings. one former staffer equating it to a starving animal who has never eaten before the article reads, during a private plane trip from tallahassee to washington, d.c., desantis enjoyed a chocolate pudding dessert by eating it with three of his fingers. ew okay, now compared to the fascist blue plate special he and his republican legislature are serving up in florida, it may not seem like much, but it could be the perfect bait for donald trump in a presidential primary. and joining me now is rick wilson, republican strategist and cofounder of the lincoln project. and don callaway, democratic strategist and founder of the national voter protection action fund i don't even know who to go to first. my mind is saying so many things to me about where to go, but you have the disadvantage of not being at the table, so rick, i'm going to throw this to you because you live in florida. >> let me tell you, there's a real rule about campaigns and it's the candidate with the most

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about woke, he's talking about eradicating gay people, african american rights, women's rights. that's what woke means we didn't acknowledge the threat when trump came down the escalator in 2015 until it was too late ron desantis is crafting a campaign in that mold. >> when ledbelly said it in 1938 and black folks were saying it since i was a kid, it just means watch your back. when they say it, woke means black. let's be clear and it means gay, and it means when you're anti that, you have told us who you are. >> he says this is where woke goes to die. >> i'm going to leave it there they mean black again. they don't know what it means. rick wilson and don callaway thank you both up next, filmmakers erica alexander and whitney dowd join me to talk about their recent debate series based on their new documentary about reparations. and we celebrate a very special women's history month birthday we'll be rig bhtack. you get advice like...

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lieutenant governor jeff duncan says he showed up to vote. stood in line for however long, lines are long in georgia by design, and then decided he couldn't vote for either walker or warnock so he left without voting at all. of course, georgia republicans are hoping other voters will fall in line like this voter nbc's vaughn hillyard spoke to this week. >> i voted for herschel. i'm a republican. i own my own business. that's how i voted that way. >> did you vote for herschel in the general election too? >> yes. >> he's going to have to make up some ground. >> he's going to lose, in all probability. mr. warnock is a wonderful individual. and i fully expect that he will win. >> joining me now is stuart stevens, senior adviser for the lincoln project, and don callaway, democratic strategist and founder of the national voter protection action fund. thank you for being here. i'm going to go to you stuart first because you have the

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between. >> that is president barack obama, don't throw anything at your tv because i'm coming back because we have to get to a commercial break. but i want to come back to you, don. that is the black excellence that democrats expect and that's why black folks vote for democrats. if republicans want to answer the question, that's the answer. right? gary chambers in louisiana, chris jones is a literal rocket scientist who ran, mandela barnes, who was the lieutenant governor. the expectations met among black folks, stacey abrams, that's why black folks vote for democrats. >> you know, for a long time now, both parties have ceded some wing of their nomination process to celebrity. and some of that has to do with fund-raising. some has to do with tell janayty, if it's a word, but the difference is on the democratic side, even in a universe where politics is in the realm of society, on the democratic side,

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multicultural democracy. and that's really the moment that we're going to have to think about far beyond tuesday when, by the way, senator reverend raphael warnock is going to win, and we can all breathe easy about the idea of not having to rely on sinema or manchin. >> when you respect your voters, you take them seriously, you give them barack obama. when you don't, on the other side, you give them dr. oz and donald trump and entertainment because you know they're not going to expect policy from you anyway. >> and ted cruz. who is that with a harvard degree, and rand paul, who is that with a doctorate, a doctorate he gave himself. >> hello. well, we lost stuart stevens' audio. thank you, we appreciate you, my friend. don callaway, thank you, my friend. >> coming up next, so much losing. trump loses again in court. this time involving the special master he wanted as he tries to worm and weasel his way out of those stolen documents, that stolen documents predicament. stay with us. nicorette knows, quitting smoking is freaking hard.

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country okay going to wars but not okay with saving lives with something as simple as a vaccine. that's what i can say as a physician. >> franco ordonez, cynthia alksne, thank you all. some high-profile democrats trying to sway joe manchin to help change senate rules for voting rights, is it diagnostic work? i'll ask don callaway and tim miller. can one speech make a difference? i'll ask historian douglas brinkley if blasting trump for overturning the election can reset the biden administration before the midterms. "the 11th hour" just getting under way on a friday night. ♪ ♪ ♪ with chase security features, guidance and convenience,

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democrats are apparently trying a new tactic to get joe manchin to sign on the possible senate rule changes in order to get essential voting rights legislation passed. they reportedly list ed the likes of bill clinton and oprah to try to convince him. the most productive discussions are said to be between manchin and fellow centrist democrats. senator tim kaine likened the effort to his 27-hour drive to washington earlier this week a of a snowstorm devastated i-95. slow progress toward a goal, like my commute. with us, don callaway, democratic strategist and founder of the national voter protection action funded, and tim miller, former communications director for jeb bush. good to see you both. tim, i remember less than a month ago joe manchin was complaining about the public pressure campaign around build

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passed, what happens? >> we have a cacophony and a complete mixedup situation in terms of actual state voting procedures going into these midterms. we would have a patchwork of state voting laws that are going to lead to absolute chaos going into this november midterms and even the primaries that lead into the midterms where you have had multiple, i think, 31 or 32 states pass voter suppression laws, making it more difficult for people to vote where there's no clarity whatsoever about that procedurely. even without the john lewis voting rights act or the other voting rights act there throughout last year, no excuse for joe manchin or other members of congress to take a look at the freedom to vote act which brings uniformity of those to what will be an "a" chaotic election season in 2022 without it. >> don and tim are staying with me. coming up, the latest example yet of who's really calling the shots at the gop

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