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Someone that you have to watch. one is $100 million that he is going to spend. first one to come up with a tv ad. number two, he has spent in the last few years getting donor lists and getting activist lists which is the key to grassroots. three things he has done. the impeach trump, the climate change and the voter registration. i think he has tens of millions of people's names that are activists. now, that being said, those are two good things but i actually think threading the needle of being the populist who is a billionaire is a tough one. steve: we had expert on a couple of days ago that...

Fact they have a money or donor standard. i want to know where they came up with it and why they think it's a good idea. >> are you concerned this standard will help support or favor candidates that are more established, the joe bidens of this race? >> it obviously favors candidates who have spent decades building up donor lists, right? they're in a poeter position to raise money. but i'm not concerned about any particular candidate. i'm concerned about having a battle of ideas. i want the democratic primary to be a battle of ideas, where we put forth our determination for our future. which is...

It they didn't take big money. they paid themselves a dollar a year, but their wealth came from building a company that serves the vital interests of american consumers and health makes our lives better and easier. the richest man on the face of the planet, jeff bezos, 566,000 people have jobs and an enterprise that 20 years ago had nobody except for one guy with a vision thinking about what to d do. >> bill: the public debate that will be had here, but bernie sanders is crushing it. look what he did in 24 hours. he raised about $6 million, and that doris kamala harris. elizabeth warren, amy k...

If we're going to face a very far left democratic nominee. and is he going to take the rest of us down with him? >> hogan did not endorse donald trump in the 2016 election and said nothing he has seen so far has changed his opinion so far for 2020. >> joining us now from axios alayna treene. i believe his average donation was $27 or so. so mastering that small donation like he did back in 2016. talk to me of the significance of all of this. >> well, it just shows that senator sanders is leaps ahead of any other democratic rival that he's facing right now. at least for now. and if you think abo...

Are looking keenly at these campaigns. how you can implement the crown jewels of the campaigns. it's, when i think about those crown jewels, it's the donors, the donor lists. their strategy, polling data. everything these campaigns hold, you know, close is potential data that can be stolen. right now, these campaigns have really run physical security operations of low opticings. the whole point is put the candidate out front. get them the greatest exposure as pospossible. really reelt roight now it's th