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But you don't decriminalize them walki walking into the united states. of course we want to welcome them if they're seeking asylum and undocumented people can buy health care too. eve everyone else is paying for their health care. i don't think it's a stretch to ask them to also pay for their health care. >> a sane immigration policy moves the comprehensive immigration reform, it moves to a humane border policy in which by the way we have enough administrative judges so we don't have the incredible back logs we have now. i happen to believe when i talk about health care, it's a human right, th...

Still have statutory authority, the president could still use his authority to separate families. so we've got to get rid of donald trump, but you don't decriminalize people just walking into the united states. if they're seeking asylum, of course we want to welcome them. we're a strong enough country to be able to welcome them, and as far as the health care goes, undocumented people can buy health care, too. i mean, everyone else in america is paying for their health care. i think -- i don't think it's a stretch for us to ask undocumented people in the country to also pay for health care. >> ...

Doorbell. we have asylum laws. but you don't decriminalize people just walking into the united states if they're seeking asylum. of course we want to welcome them. >> dana: let me bring back our panel. david, immigration, it's going to be hot and heavy again. it's the perennial issue until we figure out a way to solve it. democrats seem to be in between in terms of delineating between legal immigration and illegal immigrants and asylum seekers. >> this is another example of one person throws out a policy proposal and they all move toward it. this is glenn castro's idea in the last debate. you ...

Immigration? >> no, as a matter of fact the house bill -- yeah, they are going to give money to take care of the women and children. it's sort of extortion. yeah, we will give you the money to help women and children as long as you stop immigration enforcement. ice can't have beds and do their job. what a shame that is. the whole reason, look, people need to understand there is no border security with internal enforcement. as far as ice out there, ice said for months you guys heard me. ice needs to go out there and do national operation to arrest family members that have due process. if those ...