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Helped create hasn't done so well for americans seeking health insurance. again, i don't have to go to the numbers but just think about what he shouought out to do, th was a pool of people that needed health care, they got 14 plus minus or more that don't qualify for any other assistance who can't afford obamacare and another 6 million plus that have chosen to pay the penalty so i would argue that just on what he shou sought to achieve different result much. in the one that is did get it their premiums have gone sky high and had a tremendous affect through the rest of the health care system so...

And the problem here is that you want to keep their pre-existing kin conditions, you want to plan keep the good parts, but not to the mandate. >> kennedy: there are people like rand paul that say you can't keep part of it and hope that you keep the insurance and health care industries. i would love it -- >> harris: are you saying do it in the spirit of president obama who said, don't rescue the republicans honest? >> julie: democrats feel that democrats passed a health care plan that republicans could have worked with to improve. instead a they grandstand it it for years, never passing a alter...

Had the health and human services secretary nominee confirmed yet by the senate. tom price has a plan. he has worked on it for years. and you have rand paul, but rand paul -- >> but it's not going to happen before january 20th, because what the president-elect says, what is been reported is that he were willing to use executive orders to change some things. so what you're talking about is a process i could take how long? is it going to get done it 14 days? >> dagen: all you have to do is have a reasonable plan in place. within a year. that's all i'm saying is that rand paul is coming out sayin...

Medicare and medicaid. the republican plan to cut health care wouldn't make america great again, it would make america sick again. >> welcome back to "hardball." the war capitol hill over the future of the affordable care act, obamacare, was raging tonight. actually today when president obama in a rare appearance on the hill huddled with democrats over how to prevent republicans from killing his landmark achievement. according to reports, president obama gave democrats marching orders, catch this line. "don't rescue," that was his line, "don't rescue republicans on mistakes they'll obviously m...

Problems. so he has encouraged us to fight, which we had already made it clear we were going to do anyway. that's it. >> all right. that's congressman elijah cummings, a democrat from maryland, looking a little disspirited, i must say. manu raju is with us, is president obama in the auditorium? >> reporter: yes, he is expected to leave any moment. it was a pep rally of sorts, carol, in this meeting, he actually told democrats that they should not do anything to help republicans replace the obamacare law if it is in fact repealed, he said, quote, don't rescue, according to sources in the room. ...