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Are right there with it. women included. >> yeah. yeah. it's typical. it's not normal. but yeah, it's become something that we have become used to hearing. and i think that the reason you see just it's not just men who are laughing at it, there are women laughing at it, is because of what i was saying before. i think this is very engrained in our consciousness and the way we think about things. the idea that women's highest value comes from the way that they look or the idea that they're not as smart as men, so they have a low iq or if you're a racist person, that you believe that a black pers...

♪ we are back with the "hardball" roundtable. tell me something i don't know. >> the trump campaign recently said they were going to give money. some are people who don't support donald trump. they oppose them on policy issues and spoken out against him and he is giving these people checks. >> what is the theme in this soup. >> trump loyalist or people that are vulnerable. he would rather have these republicans that don't support him. >> when eric cantor was booted out of the house, many of us were disappointed. it turns out we have had a jewish speaker of the house all

There's $130,000 that's paid and blah, blah, blah? those of us who are married understand that those are very tough conversations. it doesn't matter who you are. >> well, in some ways -- i'm not a lawyer, but this could be more cut and dried legally too. things like collusion or obstruction of justice are a little bit more vague than if his lawyer paid $130,000 to aid his campaign by keeping her silent. that's potentially a straight up campaign finance violation. if trump organization lawyers were helping with this, that's a campaign finance violation. the interesting thing about this whole si...

Wall, finally. let's appropriate the wall, just like hillary clinton and barack obama who voted for money for a fence previously that wasn't built. let's do it this time. let's have a lot of immigrants, but have the people we need because of -- >> no. >> because of the skills we need in the economy. let's stop the diversity lottery system, those are the things he's asking for, i think the real question for the democrats is this. which is, as much as they want daca. are they willing to give the president anything he wants in exchange for it? i think that's a very live wire. i think a lot of the...

His administration is filled with people who don't support him, and that's a problem. that would be a problem for barack obama, for george w. bush or any president. they need people who support their agenda. and this administration doesn't have that in the way that previous ones did. >> but doug, i think when you examine why that is the case, why 34% of the senior staff have turned over in the first year, versus, for example, reagan at 17% or george w. bush at 6%, why this -- i don't have sympathy for the president, because it's a reflection of the lack of leadership that he has shown. it's re...