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Former trump national security advisor. i thought it was interesting to see a republican senator mark rube owe on one side saying don't think about it and manchin said don't take everything off the table. >> here is the problem and it is tragic because it is not fair. the ukrainian people are fighting for their independence but at the end of the day what happens with a no-fly zone. the united states would step in and guarantee no airplanes are flying over ukraine. whose airplanes are flying over ukraine now? russian. we would have to shoot down russian airplanes and would trigger world war iii...

That republican presidents will be too hawkish. so the obama administration suffered when swing voters thought they were too weak. trump stands to benefit if they think he is cautious. he worries about swing voter republicans and also jacksonians in his base who have an isolationist strength. i think this may have helped him with both groups. >> i think in isolation you're right. i think what doesn't help him is to look so erratic. and undisciplined. >> and so what are the unintended consequences. he is a bluffer. yes, he followings through every once in a while, so you never know. but it does...

But it would set a series of chain reactions over asia where they remember japan as the aggressor in world war ii. >> but you have the tramp aump saying "don't take everything in the campaign literally." >> but that's the thing. assault and battery took a 12-hour flight from tokyo to make sure those words were not -- >> were not literal. >> were not literal and i think that is probably the more important reason than just getting to know trump. but they're wondering are we meant to take this -- play this game. are you meant to take it seriously or literally? >> it will be interesting how many f...

Now if you're running japan and you're the prime minister and you heard a candidate say that they're going to have go it alone, we'll have to pull troops out of the region and they're probably going to have to get nukes to protect themselves from north korea, you'd be nervous, too. so when you hear him saying "i'm coming to build trust with the president-elect" he's coming to find out what if "h" is going on. then he wants to build trust. >> we know one of the aides of the japanese prime minister was talking to the trump team because they were saying japan should arm itself with nukes and this...

Them as terrorists just as isis are terrorists. so he made it very clear. this was his first chance to react to how that meeting went. and he was also whether hillary clinton was half-baked in saying today or last night, that she agrees with a no-fly zone in syria, which is basically the john mccain position, and he said she's not half-baked, she was my secretary of state, but when you're president of the united states, it's different than when you're running for president, and i have to make the judgments that you make when you're sitting in that situation room. >> yeah, that comment, that wa...