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Can understand it. he doesn't have to show up, vice president booid condition go. there are instances where presidents haven't showed up. if you don't to want go, don't go. people should lighten up about this. this is the one night a year when everybody in the media has fun in washington. and we see people we haven't seen in a year. we talk to friends and other networks. to me it's like show up if you want to, if you don't, don't. >> let me read here, this is from margaret sullivan, media critic in the washington post. she wants the event done away with. and she says she makes an argument that...

The super bowl, i happened to be a patriot's fan, not so friendly feelings towards them. i want to say, you offered then to have me on sthoet talk about the super bowl, and i just wanted to reply and say i'm happy to come on any time and talk to you about the patriots, falcons super bowl. you name the time. >> i'm going to have you on, but don't try and have belichick trick us into trading number 12 for your back-up quarterback. i know you patriots sleepers and the mainstream media are all trying to get that to happen. not going to happen. >> patriot sleeper. that's my new identity. hugh hewit...

My philosophy is to hire people that, i call hiring aspirationally. if you hire smart people, trust them. the analogy i use is, if i'm at home and the water heater breaks, and then i hire a plumber, he comes in and sits down, gets his tools out, i reach around, grab tools and start trying to fix stuff. no, i hired you because you know what you are doing. once you hire somebody and trust them, you let them go. don't try being the smartest person in the room. allow the other person to flourish. don't overrely on voice mail. i like contact with people and conversations. it's something that comes ...

Him and calling on him to further deal with hillary clinton's e-mail, remember he told -- furthermore, let me say this, trump said if i don't win the election, i'm going to challenge it. that's what he said. now that i have won, it's okay. don't try and pretend that he has not had a roll in some of the things i'm describing to you. this has been unusual and strange and extraordinary experience that we've had. >> it's not -- this another time where forn foreign policy -- iran's leadership held them through election day to inflict damage on then president jimmy carter. iran delayed -- at that

I can't get in trouble doing that. look at that, ain't that beautiful. i wake up and i'm happy to wake up every morning because life is great, and everything around me seems bright, clear, lots of color and full of life. and it starts off for me with my wife and us eating off nice china. >> while roy proudly displays his china, his reminders from prison, photos, letters, and cards are all contained in a cardboard box. >> what do you think of that when you look at that? >> not too happy. i made bad decisions in my youth and my karmic debt that i had to wise up and be thankful for what i had. do...