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You have confidence that the president of the united states did not commit a crime? it's a bit of a double negative but that could be key for any question of whether or not there is legitimacy for an impeachment inquiry to begin. having said that, knowing and studying robert mueller the way all of us have, it's probably unlikely he's going to go there because he's more likely to say i didn't feel that i had enough -- i couldn't prosecute the president so therefore i didn't look into it, so it's not appropriate for me to talk about it. but if they can get even a nugget out of him it would be hu...

Questions. and why the way, if you want a yes or no, you say did you, do you. you guys know this stuff. did you find no collusion and no obstruction? did you clear him? that's what trump said the report did. it's a double negative, and he is loving it. >> and i think that's the narrative that mueller really needs to counteract here which the president because he had that head start given to him by bill barr before the report actually came out has been able to exploit. he's repeated this mantra over and over again, no obstruction, no collusion to the point where smart people who have followed t...

Last 24 to 48 hours about mueller's testimony? he at first said he had no problem with mueller testifying and now kind of using a double negative if mueller didn't want to testify, he would support that as well. he used the expression public spectacle. first, do you think it's still a slam dunk that we will hear public testimony on live television on this network and others in front of two congressional committees from mueller? second, adjust people's expectations for said event. >> sure. mueller said he's not going to go beyond his report. i work for the man. i would take him at his word. if ...

Both sides will respect his findings? >> i sure hope so. both sides should respect the report mueller report and that harrow wits writes. he is a good man and runs a good office. it's an incredibly important one. the department of justice is made up of human beings. human beings are fallible. they get stuff wrong from time to time. it's the job of the inspector general to figure out what went wrong and make recommendations to fix it. i don't see it as a left or right issue. it's a good government issue. and we should look at the report in that way. >> now, chuck, into dicier territory. what do...

Territory. what do you make of what the attorney general has said in the last 24 to 48 hours about mueller's testimony? he at first said he had no problem with mueller testifying and now kind of using a double negative if mueller didn't want to testify, he would support that as well. he used the expression public spectacle. first, do you think it's still a slam dunk that we will hear public testimony on live television on this network and others in front of two congressional committees from mueller? second, adjust people's expectations for said event. >> sure. i think it's more likely than not...