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The report and his press conference or statement that the president had committed obstruction of justice. he stated as a double negative. i did not find that the president did not obstruct justice. but what was clearly meant is i did find the president probably did obstruct justice, but i couldn't prosecute him because he's the president. over to you, congress. if he just merely explains that in a clear, coherent way, i think he adds to the important record. as for the staff on staff discussion, i think has to illuminate some of the classified information. >> frank, what's the chance you and i...

Conference or statement that the president had committed obstruction of justice. he stated as a double negative. i did not find that the president did not obstruct justice. but what was clearly meant is i did find the president probably did obstruct justice, but i couldn't prosecute him because he's the president. over to you, congress. if he just merely explains that in a clear, coherent way, i think he adds to the important record. as for the staff on staff discussion, i think has to illuminate some of the classified information. >> frank, what's the chance you and i looked at each other whi...

He stated as a double negative. i did not find that the president did not obstruct justice. but what was clearly meant is i did find the president probably did obstruct justice, but i couldn't prosecute him because he's the president. over to you, congress. if he just merely explains that in a clear, coherent way, i think he adds to the important record. as for the staff on staff discussion, i think has to illuminate some of the classified information. >> frank, what's the chance you and i looked at each other while jay was speaking by phone in the clip to fox news. was that a movement of the ...

They did of the mueller report to lay it out for the public in all likelihood did not read 400 pages of reverse back flip double negative language from mueller and his team and want to crystallize the issues in a way that might develop more support for acting on impeachment and they have been systematically stymied in their goal of a clear public narrative and it moved beyond the issue of what the president did to kind of the process issue of the fight for information and they still face the reality that at the end of every legal pathway they pursue are five justices on the supreme court, appo...

The dnc, burglary, evidence that that was covered up. here, what do we have? in mueller's report, a double negative? can't find he didn't commit obstruction? well, there's no underlying crime. no evidence of obstruction, and mueller is not going to shed any light on that. as i said, i think john dean's testimony is clinical theater and i don't think people are going to be riveted to the tv set like they were 40 some odd years ago. >> speed nine set for >> john sale, jason chaffetz, appreciate you coming in with your perspective. >> thank you. >> ed: still ahead, our ladies' night panel takes o...