they did of the mueller report to lay it out for the public in all likelihood did not read 400 pages of reverse back flip double negative language from mueller and his team and want to crystallize the issues in a way that might develop more support for acting on impeachment and they have been systematically stymied in their goal of a clear public narrative and it moved beyond the issue of what the president did to kind of the process issue of the fight for information and they still face the reality that at the end of every legal pathway they pursue are five justices on the supreme court, appointed by republicans and they will ultimately need one of them at least to side with them or else this could end up with a diminishing of congress's ability to demand information. >> karen, do you agree it would be easy for democrats rhetorically and legally to do this through impeachment and sasing we need to talk to hope hicks because she was there when