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Of the president, this is now beyond a witch hunt. this is presidential harassment. it clearly they have no interest in serving the american people. >> that's right. this is attorney client privilege and what john mcgann is saying is that when he spoke to about president trump is their attorney and client client privilege that he should not be compelled to speak before the committee to begin with. president trump was not accused of obstruction, he did not obstruct justice, there was no conspiracy with russia, and so, this is just another attempt by nadler to keep pushing this issue forward. an...

Compile the court to get down mcgann to actually testified before the committee. now, down mcgann's attorneys are very clear here. they said that john mcgann has no evidence of any of the sort of obstruction and unless the white house changes, they are not going to let him talk. so he is basically the wording nonlawyers request and now his demands to have him talk before the committee and it would appear that nadler will have a lot more fight in the courtroom before that happens. even if the judge does compel him to speak, nadler's attorneys are oppressed in saying that unless the white house ...

To testify. now get this, even though mcgann denied he witnessed any violation of the law and that the president told him to, quote, cooperate fully with the special counsel. at this point, democrats, they don't want to hear the truth. for them, this is one ongoing never ending, every second, every minute of hour of every 24-hour day, political smear campaign. what are they ever going to do to help the american people? when are they going to serve their constituents? that's not going to happen until the 4,992nd investigation into finding no trump russia collusion or obstruction of any kind. he...

Appointed to oversee the russia investigation. here we are. a lot to discuss this afternoon. we have two people who know the subject extremely well. chuck rosenberg has been following the investigation closely and knows several of the principals involved. he worked alongside robert mueller and james comey. we also have ambassador michael mcfall with us, u.s. ambassador to russia when barack obama was president. he's now back at stanford university. both i should say are msnbc contributors. chuck, let me start with you and the piece that ran in "the new york times", reported by other outlets in...

That subject. that's all we're going on. that's it. >> they didn't say exactly how she was counselled. probably by down mcgann, the chief white house counsel. she's been a soldier of the president. in this particular incidence, looks like she stuck a toe and maybe more of a foot over the ethical line. she's been warned about it, shep. >> shepard: thanks, john. john roberts at the white house, this is the part i'll tell you about my brother's new restaurant but it be counselled on that. the strongest snowstorm of the season causing chaos in the northeast. more than a foot of snow in some parts ...