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The president the power he exercised. so activist is hardly the word for it. it's sort of extremist and rolling back the clock and really following its ideological provliveties, not like a normal court. >> professor, thank you very much. i appreciate your time, your perspective. and, next, you're going to meet the men who are right now out there here in the dark protecting ukraine from missiles. they are the ones operating the american sophisticated patriot missile defense system, which is right here in ukraine right now. and has now proved successful at knocking down putin's most sophistica...

Going to come from. i think it's going to be even harder to pursue any of those things, whether it's impeachments or defunding. you're already hearing democrats basically turning all of this talk on its face and saying republicans accused us of defunding the police and now they want to defund the justice department. i think really at the end of the day, rhetoric is rhetoric but the reality of a five-seat majority in the house of representatives is going to really take most of those things off the table. >> thank you all very much. next, ukraine bragging about taking down putin's prized missi...

Nothing more, nothing less. as long as we stick to that, michael, we have a good chance of maintaining both the domestic support for the war and the nato alliance. and even more globally. the minute you start to drift away from that, talk about taking down putin, et cetera, you start to, i think, fray the alliance. >> okay. so, i'm glad you said that because i struggle to understand the guardrails, the guardrail meaning that the migs are too much but providing the intel for taking out russian generals apparently is acceptable. on thursday, i'll put something on the screen and i'll read it to y...

Security adviser for iraq and afghanistan under george w. bush. meghan, welcome. so i want to start by asking you a baseline kind of question, which is if you had your job as deputy national security adviser and president biden called you in and said, i want us to work on driving down putin's oil and gas revenues, can you come up with a plan? is the basic -- is your basic view it's doable, but hard, or it's really not in the realm of possible? >> well, thanks, fareed. good to be with you. and i would say it's certainly doable and the question is at what cost? and there are different components...

Once again, friendlier to russia than to the west. but now this just looks like a campaign of destruction. >> it does. it looks like a campaign of vengeance, because it was not the cakewalk that he was anticipating. i do think that putin has had an obsession with ukraine for many years, he's made that clear in his writings, and in his actions. he invaded georgia in 2008, he invaded ukraine in 2014, as he recounted. and he got away with both of those actions. i think he thought he was going to get away with it again, that ukraine would not be able to put up the kind of resistance that we are se...