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Around the vietnam war at christmastime. >> no, sir, i'm not a deserter. >> well, i didn't think you was. i was just trying to figure out -- >> i'm a draft dodger. >> and, you know, fireworks. >> maybe i should go. >> do not spoil our dinner. >> oh, no, daddy. don't let him go. don't make him -- >> certainly, he's got to go. what are you talking about? >> the laughs stopped. you know? it got really tense. you were at that dinner table. >> if my opinion is of any importance -- >> certainly, your opinion is of importance. a gold star father. >> it made a strong statement about war when televisio...

Any other show in that era. it allowed for both drama and pathos but also humor. >> why don't you stay and have christmas eve dinner with us. >> there's a knock on the door and it's a friend of michael's. he's a vietnam draft dodger. >> aren't you taking a big chance coming down to the states? >> but it's christmas, you know? >> so, christmas sets the tone for all this. >> on holidays, peggy, sometimes she just feels a little low, you know? >> and archie has invited another guest, his friend, pinky. >> so, if he starts talking about steve, get him off the subject. make a joke about something. ...

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Forget one of the guys said about without andrews, mark hatfield said, you know, who didn't vote for the defense bill? and dole said, mark, why didn't you vote for that. and he said i was one of the last sabers headed for nagasaki, and i don't talk about it, i don't like to hear from someone who is a draft dodger from whatever said it was. he didn't use curse words. he sent me off to do the cursing. he said well, you go curse on somebody? i said yeah, i was an assistant for ten years. i loved the guy. i'd go anywhere for him. but his charm was humor. >> bob woodward, you covered him, and like ...