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Charlie's word a lawless theo cat, he's a french figure. >> except he's not a french figure anymore. >> he's going to be a u.s. senator. i want to play this tape. this is so key. one of the things that distinguished donald trump is he didn't know anything about anything having to do with policy and that's course of roy moore. roy moore goes on a conservative talk radio show during the election with a guy who i think basically wants to support him, he's really into daca and rescinding it and this is the exchange they have on daca. take a listen. >> would you support an end to the d.r.e.a.m.ers ...

Thank you all. first rate panel tonight to start the program. coming up, president trump says he has no second thoughts about his decision to end the d.r.e.a.m.ers program. seems like he's only got second thoughts. despite tweeting he'll revisit this. what's that jamboree of thought have to do with anything? up next we'll talk with a member of congress who spent part of his life in this country as an immigrant. what would america look like if democrats were actually fully in charge right now the the presidency of both houses of congress, what would they be doing? i'm going to ask the congres...

Program over the last five years has been that their wages, because they've been coming out of the underground economy or out of a situation where they couldn't get a higher degree because they didn't think that they could work legally out of it, have increased, and they now, for those 25 and older, wages have increased 84% since they came under the protections of the daca program. so when we talk about the threat of ending it, that's the kind of forward motion that might get rolled back. >> then as a nation of immigrants aren't these the exact kind of immigrants we want? i want to talk about ...

New jersey, and florida. my next guest has been covering the d.r.e.a.m.ers extensively. dara lind is a senior reporter at fox.com. dara, first, tell me what a d.r.e.a.m.er looks like. last week, head of the voter fraud commission, chris coback, tried to tell me they were gang bangers who hadn't been prosecuted for their hard crimes yet, but i know that's not the case. >> right. the average daca recipient who's applied for and gotten protection under this program, came to the united states at 6 years old, average age now 25, 26. so they've been in the u.s. for 20 years. to qualify for protectio...

Are expecting to learn what action president trump plans to take on the d.r.e.a.m.ers program. two sources tell nbc news he is leaning towards ending it, much to the dismay of business leaders who say the united states' economy would take a multibillion-dollar hit. let's go through the numbers. the pro immigration reform group fwd.us, co-founded by mark zuckerberg, says canceling the program would mean roughly 30,000 d.r.e.a.m.ers a month would lose their work permits as their status expires. and the loss of all those jobs would reduce the u.s. gdp by $433 billion with a "b" over the next ten ...