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Energy intensive, this company alone provides to businesses in aerospace, construction, hospitals, retail. so that drip drip effect further down the supply chain will affect everyone. look over there. that is insulation that is needed in construction at the moment. so these energy prices matter. there are thousands of businesses waiting to see what that deal looks like but also wondering when and how they will be able to pay back the loans. thank you very much, nina. we will keep a close eye on all of those developments in the next few days. let's return to our main story now — that damning ...

Really concerned. they don't operate on big margins and these are not small— on big margins and these are not small price — on big margins and these are not small price increases, this is doubling _ small price increases, this is doubling and it could absolutely be fatal~ _ doubling and it could absolutely be fatal. ., , doubling and it could absolutely be fatal. . , ., , ., fatal. that will be a shame when the have fatal. that will be a shame when they have just — fatal. that will be a shame when they have just come _ fatal. that will be a shame when they have just come through i fatal....

Branding, at reframing narrative. if he's able to do that successfully with joe biden, it could have an impact on him. >> and what could have a bigger impact on the president. if this builds and escalates, you can say joe biden that it's real and this is having a potential drip drip effect on the president, isn't it? >> i mean obviously impacts the president. nobody wants to live under this cloud. to isaac's earlier analysis, which may have come from the funny pages, it doesn't agree with facts and honesty. the truth of the matter is, joe biden's campaign is going in a direction that he doesn'...

And american businesses? >> if you look at the jobs picture at least, you'll see at least according to the canadians, according to the u.s., this is going to help middle-class jobs, job growth in north america. it is going to keep the steel and aluminum tariffs in place. we have that industry to keep an eye op, but it really does remove a lot of uncertainty in the market. you can see that excitement on wall street. we have the dow up over 200 points because that uncertainty has really been weighing over the market. this has been a market that's been trading on these headlines, a drip, drip, dr...

>> i will not weigh into this. i haven't spoken to the president. >> has the president taken action to benefit novart s? >> not that i am aware of. >> i think this is very swampy. cohen's broader -- michael avenatti's point here has been made successfully. >> i think the bigger story here is he is outtrumping trump. he has the drip, drip, drip effect. the stormy daniels situation would continue to play out. he has been able to play the press and keep this top of mind through several weeks now. >> joyce vance, anna, amber. thank you. we want to tell you about what is coming up later on in the s...