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The tools of american power, economic, political, diplomatic, military, and he has advanced america's security by talking to our enemies. >> there's a really interesting political dimension domestically to see play out here, and you and i think are both on the same page about how we feel about the architects of the iraq war and the bush doctrinedoctrine, et cetera. there's been an insurgent wing, the tea party base, that has shown signs of breaking with a neo kievtive orthodoxy that still controls the upper echelons of republican think tanks and political thinking. the big question for me is t...

The tools of american power, economic, political, diplomatic, military, and he has advanced america's security by talking to our enemies. >> there's a really interesting political dimension domestically to see play out here, and you and i think are both on the same page about how we feel about the architects of the iraq war and the bush docktrinedoctrine, et . there's been an insurgent wing, the tea party base, that has shown signs of breaking with a neo kievtive orthodoxy that still controls the upper echelons of republican think tanks and political thinking. the big question for me is this s...

Thinking. the big question for me is this strikes me as a huge test case. what does rand paul say about this? what do senators ted cruz and mike lee say about this? these are guys that were skeptic capital of drones during rand paul's drone filibuster. they've been much more open to critiques of the overreach of the surveillance state. well, here's an opportunity to support the peaceful diplomatic resolution of a standoff with an adversary. what do we hear from them? >> right. i don't know that i've heard anything from them immediately, you know, just recently, but i think rand paul in past sp...

>> and that's surprising, because? >> well, because -- >> i mean, this is what they have done from the very beginning, delegitimizing obama, did he legitimizing his health care bill, law, anything else he's associated with. but i will say this about ted cruz. i don't think he's self emulating right now. you don't. >> i think the republican party is. but i think he has now leapfrogged over rand paul. rand paul had the drone filibuster. that got, you know, conservatives going. now he has the health care filibuster which when it comes to 2016 is going to be worth a lot more than the drone filibus...

That you care about this issue one way or the other wherever you stand. but now to hear that chant from the families in connecticut. they were not prompted by the president, by his staff saying just give us a vote here. did the republicans underestimate? what is the description here? this is all back firing now. this filibuster. >> i don't know what their calculations were. rand paul had some measure of success on the drone filibuster. and he might have very well, has asked, might have asked his colleague mitch mcconnell to join him on this. but yes, i think they overcalculated. one of the thi...