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securing the border is really better than anyone. bill: the issue wasn't the border, the issue was education breaks. does he stand by those. >> the state of texas hay decided that anyone, any child in texas who has been here for three years, has graduate fred a texas high school, who is a texas resident pays in-state tuition. that is a law the legislature passed. it only had four opposing votes. we believe and texans believe that that is an education policy that is consistent, that treats everyone the same, everyone pays, if you're a texas resident, pays the same amount and that's the law of the land here. bill: i take it the answer is a yes and we'll see how that works its way through this primary season. now herman cain yesterday said that governor perry with us not up to pri-time in our fox google debate last thursday. herman cain is also a guy who won the florida straw poll, and easy winner in that poll with your man, rick perry finishing well back in second-place. what did you think about that