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And oak creek, it is newtown that may end up being the inflexion point for measurable change. President obama suggested as much last night. We cant tolerate this anymore. These tragedies must end and to end them we must change. Its monday, december 17th. Joining me today msnbc contributor and editor of the grio. Com joy reid, former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, deputy new york city mayor Howard Wolfson and editor of the New York Times magazine edward lindgren. Jansing and companys Chris Jansing joins us now. You have been on the road a lot this year to some very terrible places in the wak...

0 the highest price paid to so many of these families in that small community there, that something of change will come out of this? >> i think there will be. i did get a sense of resolve, that's a very good word, with the president, with our governor, with other leaders across the state of connecticut. our elected representatives down in washington. the people of newtown are strong. they are a people of great faith, they are a small knit community. they will not retreat from this. in many ways, they will get stronger, and they will want us to make sure not that we use this, but that we learn ...