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Clay aiken has reportedly said -- he's reportedly said he's actively considering a run for congress. i have to be honest with you, what struck me about that, and i'm only half jobing when i say this, is that being a reality tv star and being in congress are not so different, actually, these days. >> which is worse? >> exactly. i think probably being in congress is still worse. what kind of chance do you think he would have? >> celebrity candidates -- here's the problem. you know, running for office, let alone being in offense is not like an episode of "the west wing." it's a tough, brutal busi...

How long does it take, do you think? how quickly does a fan become a fan? >> it's different for everybody. until you hear your joke, and your joke is in there somewhere. >> and how many jokes -- do you ever do like a word count, or a sell count on how many jokes there are per episode? >> it hangs around 600 usually. the first season we were at 300, and then the second season we got -- you know, once we were getting paid to do it, it got to be about 600. >> we saved those. >> doubled our output. >> jay elvis. >> yes. >> i thought this was true from the little thing i wrote oddly enough in the "...

Appreciate the deep satire and sometimes even the political satire, but more broadly the social satire you've worked into every one of these things? >> ego wise, i'd say, no, of course they can't possibly appreciate the deep satire we do. as trace said, it's people find their jokes. some people actually scold us when we get that, they don't want that from us. but i think with 600 jokes, there's -- you've got to go for a lot of different levels of joke. >> did you ever -- have you ever found that with that volume of humor, that people just tend to, as you said, they like the ones that are their...

Satire, but more broadly the social satire you've worked into every one of these things? >> ego wise, i'd say, no, of course they can't possibly appreciate the deep satire we do. as trace said, it's people find their jokes. some people actually scold us when we get political now because they don't want that from us. but i think with 600 jokes, there's -- you've got to go for a lot of different levels of joke. >> did you ever -- have you ever found that with that volume of humor, that people just tend to, as you said, they like the ones that are their jokes, and if they don't like the other one...