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think should be made clear, there seems to have about some confusion about whether or not the commission would provide some recommendation as to what the effect of the recommendation of official misconduct should be. having reviewed the transcript and certainly my personal understanding of what we decided on the 16th was that there was no need to provide any explanation for suggestion of what the affect of a recommendation of official misconduct would be. because the charter clearly states that if there is a finding of official misconduct, then the person found to have committed offi...

>> i would like to all to order the special meeting of the san francisco ethics commission and we'll begin by taking the roll. commissioner liu. here. >> commissioner hayon? >> here. >> commissioner renee. >> here. >> commissioner studley has an excused absence today. our first order of business is consideration of the draft findings and legal justifications for the commission's decision on august 16th, 2012. we have posted and circulated a written document that summarizes what was done on the 16th. thanks to commissioner liu for playing a significant part in putting this document ...

and so the plea bargain that ross took is the plea bargain that allows police officers to keep their jobs. it's not a crime of moral terpitude, and this is that standard thing. it's the plea bargain that is designed for the person to not lose their job it's the plea bargain designed so that the breadwinner continues to have employment, health insurance and medical benefits for the family and it's the plea bargain that allows the criminal justice system to allow that person to be rehabilitated and to -- i don't know, be rehabilitated and pace pay their price to society and the like. t...

>> i would like to all to order the special meeting of the san francisco ethics commission and we'll begin by taking the roll. commissioner liu. here. >> commissioner hayon? >> here. >> commissioner renee. >> here. >> commissioner studley has an excused absence today. our first order of business is consideration of the draft findings and legal justifications for the commission's decision on august 16th, 2012. we have posted and circulated a written document that summarizes what was done on the 16th. thanks to commissioner liu for playing a significant part in putting this document ...

>> commissioner hayon? >> here. >> commissioner renee. >> here. >> commissioner studley has an excused absence today. our first order of business is consideration of the draft findings and legal justifications for the commission's decision on august 16th, 2012. we have posted and circulated a written document that summarizes what was done on the 16th. thanks to commissioner liu for playing a significant part in putting this document together. before we begin, one issue i think should be made clear, there seems to have about some confusion about whether or not the commission would pro...