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debate. a conversation with medical ethicist daniel callahan. also, the church in leipzig, in what was then communist east germany, where people were free to pray and hear the gospels. they then went out to march in demonstrations that helped bring down the berlin wall, 20 years ago. plus, the mormon church is re- building downtown salt lake city. some like the plan, others think the result will be too squeaky- clean. >> it's going to fundamentally change the values and the whole culture of that part of downtown. captioning sponsored by the lilly endowment >> abernethy: welcome, i'm ...

debate. a conversation with medical ethicist daniel callahan. also, the church in leipzig, in what was then communist east germany, where people were free to pray and hear the gospels. they then went out to march in demonstrations that helped bring down theerlin wall, 20 years ago. plus, the mormon church is re- building downtown salt lake city. some like the plan, others think the result will be too squeaky- clean. >> it's going to fundamentally change the values and the whole culture of that part of downtown. captioning sponsored by the lilly endowment >> abernethy: welcome, i'm bo...

debate. a conversation with medic ethicistaniel callahan. also, the church ileipzig, in what was then mmunist east germany, where peopleere free to pray and hear the gpels. they then went t to march in demonsrations that helped bring do the berlin wall, 20 years o. plus, the mormon church re- building downtown salt ke city. me like the plan, others thi the result will beoo squeaky- clean. >> it's going to undamentally change the values and the wle culture of that part of downtown. captning sponsored by the liy endowment >> abernethy: wcome, i'm bob abernethy. is good to have you with...