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Represents. but i tell you, people like the fight, the energy and donald trump, is contagious. >> and he watched her all you could see it. once he gets in campaign mode he's like a different level of energy. we are talking about joe biden and the electability lane. this week the new york times story that says president obama said you do not have to do this, you really don't, are the obama folks thinking that joe biden doesn't have what it takes to take on president trump? >> i think it's a little big. clearly if one has had doubts about his age, failed prior attempts to run for president, goin...

Represents. but i tell you, people like the fight, the energy and donald trump, is contagious. >> and he watched her all you could see it. once he gets in campaign mode he's like a different level of energy. we are talking about joe biden and the electability lane. this week the new york times story that says president obama said you do not have to do this, you really don't, are the obama folks thinking that joe biden doesn't have what it takes to take on president trump? >> i think it's a little big. clearly if one has had doubts about his age, failed prior attempts to run for president, goin...

Represents. but i tell you, people like the fight, the energy and donald trump, is contagious. >> and he watched her all you could see it. once he gets in campaign mode he's like a different level of energy. we are talking about joe biden and the electability lane. this week the new york times story that says president obama said you do not have to do this, you really don't, are the obama folks thinking that joe biden doesn't have what it takes to take on president trump? >> i think it's a little big. clearly if one has had doubts about his age, failed prior attempts to run for president, goin...

Because if he looks like he's being talked over, talked across despite the fact that he's got the largest gravitational pull as the best known figure in the race, that could be a problem. he has to show that he's vital, vibrant, crisp. >> i think, joe, though that he may just talk above. i don't mean like louder, i mean in a different plane than everyone was talking last night and the people on stage. that electability lane and i don't know whether you'll be tonight. >> go ahead, joe. >> i agree with that. in some ways that's what elizabeth warren did. no one really challenged her. they were t...

We don't talk about it day to day, but donors activists in the republican party look at this, know likely indictments are coming probably soon. not to say chris christie is in danger of being indicted, but people around him will be. it created a cloud that created doubt. if you're a republican looking at 10 12 candidates, why let go with christie when i have these other choices. >> how big a mistake to write christie off? >> i would buy chris christie now as a value stock, but last point steve made was very important. right now, many primaries, there are different lanes you can run in. you can...