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makes it all the more concerning when you look at how many of trump's pardons carried the stink of political patronage and best in corrupt self-interest at worst. according to pew research center over the course of his four years in office trump only granted 237 acts of clemency. that's the third lowest number of pardons for any president in history. only the two president bush is pardoned fewer people. it would seem that trump was extremely selective about who he pardoned. still some of his pardons were widely praised. like alice johnson in 2020 who was serving life in prison for a ...

contested races for senate and governor. and the 25-year-old is aiming to be the first gen z member of congress. plus, the politics of religion in the conservative candidates going to an extreme. >> the church is supposed to direct the government. the government is not supposed to direct the church. that is not how our founding fathers intended. i'm tired of the separation of church and state dunk. >> that provocative discussion on faith in government. i am michael steele in for my friend jonathan capehart. and this is the sunday show. this sunday, if donald trump is not supposed to ...

>> the strategy is to blame people, his advisors called, the crazies, for what donald trump did. this, of course, is nonsense. president trump is a 76-year- old man. he is not an impressionable child. donald trump cannot escape responsibility by being willfully blind. nor can any argument of any kind excuse his behavior during the violent attack on january 6. >> that is the public narrative, but for the legal case, a congresswoman liz cheney dropped a bombshell. she said that trump tried to call an unnamed witness not yet seen in the hearings. whatever details the committee has on th...

house counsel pat cipollone and his former deputy, patrick philbin. coming up on thursday, the federal magistrate judge who approved that search will hear arguments for and against unsealing the search warrant affidavit. cnn's jessica schneider joins us now. so what do you know about the fbi's interviews with pat cipollone and patrick philbin? >> reporter: yeah. anderson, we know that the most senior former trump officials to be interviewed in what we know is really this ongoing criminal investigation into the possible mishandling of the classified documents and this revelation that ...

on what a federal judge said about donald trump's request for a special master to review those mar-a-lago materials. >> i feel a weight lifted off my shoulders. >> o'donnell: and requested eye on america." cbs' jonathan vigliotti on how one school district is hoping to fix the nation's teacher shortage by getting into the real estate market. >> this gives teachers hope. >> this is the "cbs evening news" with norah o'donnell, reporting from the nation's capital. >> o'donnell: good evening, and thank you for joining us on this busy thursday night. tonight, day four of the humanitarian ...